Joy o’ Kanji features fun, photo-filled essays to help you learn Joyo kanji, written by Eve Kushner, author of ‘Crazy for Kanji’ and ‘Kanji Curiosity.’. How To Learn the 2,+ Joyo Kanji in 97 Days Kanji is the third of the three pillars of the Japanese writing system (the other two being hiragana and. I already answered a similar question in another thread, so I will post it again here. The answer is quite long, however be sure to read through all of it, as it.

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Even if you completely ignore kajni, it still affects the educational materials that end up in our laps. You can find the analysis at this site http: The point of them is not to teach the language but make sure the important parts of the language for further education are included of parts of the language that are important for cultural reasons and scientific reasons. There are uncountable examples, but, in short, no, Joyo does not represent everything that is used. Probably only up to elementary school, some middle school, and then rest is picking up words as you go.

No one ever set any limits on novels and magazines and other publications jiyo I recall correctly except maybe encouraging them to use furigana jlyo hard kanji.

There is no reason to prefer it other than that you are an archaic person who wrote about things years ago.

Jōyō kanji – Wikipedia

Probably already been answered, but they are absolutely not obsolete. I know thousands of non-Joyo kanji and use them every day in my life, as do millions of Japanese people. And I bet it’s used WAY more often than platform thanks to website layouts. Submit a new text post.


Now I know why the decorative windows in Korean restaurants look so damned Asian. It’s hard to draw a line and say, “this will be understood, but this won’t. Not doing so falls under ‘Low effort’ see rule 6. High schools and universities started using the characters in their entrance exams since the academic year. It also was a way to keep my memorizing skills sharp by memorizing random things I would never need to know.

Syllabograms Furigana Okurigana Braille. I wonder if this is perhaps a rationale behind its continued inclusion? A great writing, one which I agree very much.

But the most important thing to note is that joyp number of Kanji is joyyo I think the indignation comes from how ridiculously bad the list is and the fact that it affects us all who are learning Japanese negatively to some degree. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. None of the questions ask you anything about a single Kanji in Heisig style.

Webarchive template wayback links CS1 Japanese-language sources ja All articles with dead external links Articles with dead external links from July Articles with permanently dead external links Articles containing Japanese-language text Wikipedia articles with NDL identifiers. Which grades get which new characters I wonder….

I just explained this in the last post.

The NEW 常用漢字 and why we shouldn’t give a damn

You have to pick the sentence with the word that uses the same kanji as the question. Isn’t that THE only way to learn the language as a foreigner, unless you kanui go to japan knowing nothing and somehow learn everything without absorbing any media.

Every few months i go thru knji list and check off what kanji i know. And as for Japanese schools, the kanji they TEACH in classes are the jouyou I thinkbut the students are exposed to way more kanji not on the list through things like required book readings, and studying specialized subjects where rarer kanji are used.


Jyo should make up some index cards and memorize them one by one. In Chinese, it is used for a lot of things.

Since I already knew all the readings for the kanji, memorizing was a snap. Retrieved 1 February Literary and colloquial readings. Here are lists list of kanji by frequency in both novels and in Wikipedia listings. It’s merely a category used to officially define what is allowed on government documents someone correct me if I’m wrong because I’m sure there’s some legal considerations here.

If I understand correctly, only newspapers and government publications were told to try to avoid using words that use non-jouyou kanji. New to the sub? I personally use the list to try to be thorough in learning all the kanji. Check to see if your question has been addressed before posting by searching or reading the wiki. Become a Redditor and subscribe to one of thousands of communities.

Table of Simplified Characters. Joyo isn’t a strict definition of everything used in Japan, but neither is it “only for government documents” or whatever. If anything, the digital age has probably brought far more Kanji into common usage since you really don’t have to know them by heart to write them anymore. Archived from the original on 14 February I think there’s some stigma against putting too many of them back on the list.

It was recognition of how crazy their writing system is and it did something to increase comprehension.

We don’t know a whole lot about the process behind choosing what kanji go into the Joyo list, but I would say it’s rife with bureaucratic nonsense. I’m not sure where you got that from. Archived from the original on 3 March